Discussion:
Why would this be off topic?
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Edith
2007-03-08 19:38:37 UTC
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My number is zero. That's the whole point. There is no such thing as
an entirely unmoderated mailing list or Yahoo group, as there is with
a newsgroup. They have central control.
I understand your point, but it's a technicality. Take a web-based
discussion group, for example. The fact that a moderator *can* remove
posts has no significance if the moderator chooses not to do so. There
are any number of such groups in operation.
And, yet, people give as a reason to avoid posting to a moderated group
the fact that a moderator could modify a post -- even if they are not
actually doing so.
Now go disrupt that web forum and see what happens. The owner will likely
do something about it, and even if he doesn't, he has the option to. The
forum is moderated. It is owned by someone who has total control over
everything that happens there.
If that owner leaves it to rot, it will fail and be abandoned much faster
than Usenet is being abandoned.
Again, technically, you are correct. But if the people controlling them
wish to provide the illusion of being unmoderated, and actually do so,
then what difference does it really make that instead of being hosted on
many servers the discussion is hosted on one server?
The difference is that disruption can be controlled, posts can be removed,
posters can be excluded, and the discussion can be kept sane. That's why
people prefer the things.
You mean like in comp.ai
since it was taken over by one of your brows?

Why don't you go to comp.ai and enjoy reading
those adds?

Why waste your valuable time here?

You know you are in the wrong place fer dat.

The hell will sooner gets frozen
before just about anyone around here
will eat your totalitarian brainwashing propaganda
as to why everything has to be dominated by assorted
nazis of your kind.

What is so difficult to grasp?

Are you a masochist?

Enough.
Are you really such a Usenet bigot that you *believe* that there are no
useful unmoderated non-Usenet forums, and that droves of people are
using them?
It's not bigotry; I can't *think* of any useful unmoderated non-Usenet
forums. Which doesn't mean there aren't any, but I think it does mean
at least that there aren't many of them, which means people don't want
them as much.
Do you really believe that Usenet remains the mainstream
location that most Internet users go to today to get information?
Er, no. Why would you think I said anything like that?
When rec.ponds turned into a cesspool, what happened? The regulars
there left Usenet for other venues. Same for the rec.radio.amateur
groups. Are these alternative forums unmoderated? Some are and some
are not, but that's not the point of this part of the discussion.
Which of them are unmoderated? They left for *moderated* forums where
the problem could not follow.
People are leaving Usenet in droves, and more important, new people are
not coming to Usenet because the prefer other types of discussion forums
and that's "where the action is".
That's exactly what I'm saying. The action is there because the people
are there, and the people are there instead of here because we have no way
to stop assholes from destroying the usefulness of newsgroups.
I'm a beekeeper. There are at least two very useful web-based forums on
the topic. They have hundreds of knowledgeable users plus a good
collection of newbies who are looking for information. There's also a
venerable mailing list. There are Usenet groups, but they're
essentially dead.
And why do you suppose that is? Why do those people not prefer Usenet?
This attitude of non-Usenet resources being "in pretty short supply" is
dangerous.
Er, I never said anything like that. I said *unmoderated forums* are in
short supply. That is to say, I can't think of any. There is certainly
no shortage of forums, but the ones people prefer are, overwhelmingly,
moderated.
People leave Usenet, and if you ask them why, that's the biggest reason.
That's the biggest problem we have right now. Several years ago, it was
spam; there are people who left Usenet because of that who will still
cite that as the reason for not using it, because they don't know that
we fixed that problem. But now, people don't leave because of spam.
You see two main reasons: first, that assholes can destroy the usefulness
of newsgroups; and second, that you *get* spam in your email if you post
using a valid address. The second thing is easy to work around. The
first, not so much -- but if we don't, then we really do have a serious
problem.
This is a much more difficult problem than spam, but it's also a lot more
serious.
The arrogance of Usenet is one of the things that may
eventually kill it. "Read newsgroups with a news reader, or not at
all." Sorry, but most of the people out there who are looking for
information are not interested in the technology, they don't care if the
group they're reading is hosted on one server or thousands, and they
don't appreciate the nuances of threading or being able to examine
message headers. They just want information, or discussion.
I agree with you completely.
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This is just a reminder.
It is not an emergency yet.
Were it actual emergency, you wouldn't be able to read this.
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Ophelia
2007-03-08 18:40:55 UTC
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:45:47 GMT, in news.groups, Aratzio
The Board as is stood then machinated the events. They knew Russ was
burned out and took advantage of his stated desire to wash his hands to
stage their little coup.
Liar.
Ah, the fine non-abusive post by a board member. Rather than refute
with fact, just scream liar and run away.
Why use logic when you have you have a fallacy at hand.
And why bother refuting an opinion when your audience has already made up
their minds?
I keep seeing post claiming my post was off charter, yet posts like
this go by unchecked. Fucking hypocrites.
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 01:07:21 CST
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Subject: Re: 2nd RFD: sci.physics.foundations moderated
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This would be indeed the kind of group which is currently missing.
A place to discuss interpretations and underlaying mechanisms
of the phenomenology we observe, and doing so with a key
desire to match those with the successful effective theories
as the SM and GR.
Hans,
Good to hear from you again, it has been awhile. Thanks for the words
of support, and I hope you will join us once we get fired up.
Have not heard from Alejandro lately, what is he up to?
Well, masturbating, just like yourself.
The only difference, you do it in "official" hole,
called ngp and he is doing it in front of his idiot box.
I contnue my quest, as I suppose you and Alejandro do yours, to make
sense of the pattern of fermion masses, which every day it remains
perhaps the most important unexplained experimental data in physics,
is a constant reminder of how much we humans who think we know so
much, really do not know.
Jay.
Well, looks like a valid proposal to me.
I wonder how fast herr fuehrer is gonna send that
"official" "authorize" control message.

Btw, ALL these suckers are criminals.
They are using the isc.org email address,
thus forging all the control messages,
as none of these suckers can possibly have
right to post under someone elses identity,
especiall, the "official" control messages.

How disgusting.

Where's that Adolph Push, Push in Da Bush?

I mean these people are terrorist suspects!
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I'll go further, some use handles like furry-burry
or twinky-winky and expect respect, well I
personally detest replying to a dorky handle.
Any self-respecting real physicist will use a
clearly identifying handle, as a matter of fact,
I rarely reply to the fakes and flakes, cuz I
want a serious theoretician on the other end.
I'd never encountered that point of view,
so now I'm curious. Do you consider my
alternate name "strangerep" to be indicative
of a fake or flake? (I use it in a possibly-lame
attempt to minimize chances of identify-theft.)
Returning to the context of this thread...
what would be the objective criteria for determining
whether an alternative name is or isn't respectable?
Well, looks like they are pretty busy in that ngp hole,
masturbating all day long it seems,
all 3 of them!

Yeah. That WEALLY pfooves
that ngp is about da ONLY official place...

To masturbate
to your heart's content.

Hail Puppets!




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"If you don't have any ambitions, the minimum-wage job
isn't going to get you to where you want to get, for example.

In other words, what is your ambitions?

And oh, by the way, if that is your ambition,
here's what it's going to take to achieve it.

--- Adolph Bush,
"Speech to students in Little Rock, Ark.,
Aug. 29, 2002 (Thanks to George Dupper.)
k***@ucla.edu
2007-03-08 21:26:23 UTC
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then you need to go back and reread the history, because Jeremy, you
are wrong. complete and utterly wrong. After All, you weren't even
here during that period.
You know, there's just very little point to any of this "discussion" any
more. It's silly trying to have a discussion with people who are just
going to flat-out lie.
Who is this funkay chickan?

Or is it a huge, mega-sucking piggy?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The standard Jeremy response, backed into the corner by facts from
people who were here the whole time, unlike Jeremy, he screams liar
and runs away.
What a cretin.
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"For NASA, space is still a high priority."

--- Adolph Bush
Dianna
2007-03-08 20:34:40 UTC
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A considerable number of mailing lists, yahoo groups, the old
discussion boards (remember those? :) )
How many of those are really unmoderated?
How many are not? You're the one making the baseless claim. Back it
up with some actual numbers.
My number is zero.
Your number is innacurate.
I agree with this post.




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[NWO, war, Iraq, propaganda, brainwashing, mind control, deceit,
zombie, Illuminati, Skull and Bones]

"Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities
that were used for the production of biological weapons."

--- Adolph Bush
Speech to UN General Assembly
September 12, 2002
I.G. Levinson
2007-03-08 18:34:46 UTC
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You're saying there's no such thing as an irrational opinion? I'm sorry,
but the world is full of them.
No, I don't believe I said that at all. There ARE indeed irrational
opinions. I just haven't seen any here. At least not from *serious*(IMO)
posters.
Well, given that it's down to judgement, okay. But I see a *lot* of
*very* irrational opinions around here, and all too few serious posters.
Both do exist here, of course.
In your opinion, of course. You see, your judgement about someone else's
opinions is also an opinion. Plus your original comment was about
"irrational hatred" of a moderated forum. THAT is what I was originally
responding to.
Oh, you are still talking to these dummies?
How unfortunate.
I thought you are ready to get to woik.
If you are unwilling to accept that
there is a fundamental difference
between "you are an asshole and you disagree with me" and "you are an
asshole because you disagree with me" then I see no reason to take you
seriously at all.
You have no reason to "take me" either seriously or nonseriously at
all. Your choice. However, you have shown a tendancy to not listen to
those with whom you disagree.
I have shown no such tendency. I have shown a tendency to not listen to
those who are kooks, liars, and assholes. I actually *want* to hear
from people who disagree with me who fall into none of the above
categories. However, you've done a pretty good job here of demonstrating
that you fall into the second category, and probably aren't worth taking
seriously. I mean, what's the point in wasting time listening to
someone after you've seen that their arguments are based on lies?
Hmmm. I don't know where I have lied but it is your choice whether or
not you read me. It would seem that based on nothing, you have decided
that I am not worth listening to or wasting your time on. And you claim
toNOT have a tendancy to not listen to those with whom you disagree? I
beg to differ, sir.
CWQ
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[NWO, degenerate, Zionism, racism, fascistm, genocide,
Illuminati, Freemason]

This address of Rabbinovich was published in the U.S. Publication
'Common Sense', and re-published in the September issue of the
Canadian Intelligence Service. Rabbi Rabbinovich speaking to an
assembly in Budapest, Hungary on the 12th January 1952 stated:

"We will openly reveal our identity with the races of Asia or Africa.
I can state with assurance that the last generation of white children
is now being born. Our control commission will, in the interests of
peace and wiping out inter-racial tensions, forbid the Whites to mate
with Whites.

The white women must co-habit with members of the dark races, the
White man with black women. Thus the White race will disappear,
for mixing the dark with the white means the end of the White Man,
and our most dangerous enemy will become only a memory.

We shall embark upon an era of ten thousand years of peace and
plenty, the Pax Judiaca, and OUR RACE will rule undisputed over
the world.

Our superior intelligence will enable us to retain mastery over a
world of dark peoples."

[Read a mind boggling article on degeneracy:
Message-ID: <***@xtwakmrdlx.org>
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Owen
2007-03-08 19:15:39 UTC
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I tried running a deja on it, but couldn't find that thread nor the
comments at the time. But my recollection is that they didn't finish
it with 'of the board.'
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:membership&rev=1146705136
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VII. INTERIM POLICY: INITIAL TERMS FOR FOUNDER MEMBERS
1. Upon adoption of this Policy by the Board,
What "board", you funkay chickan?
the Chair shall,
Da "chair" shall suck a black hole.
by consent
Hey, this looks like zome corrupt parliament act
in a shadow puppet theatre.

I LIKE that.
if possible,
Yup, yup.
or randomly,
Yep. By sticking his weanie
into a hot cop of tee
and counting the drops
that fall off.
select three Members
Yup, yup.

Is it the same holey-sucking trinity emulation procedure?
of the Board
Oh.
DA Board, Yerr Holey Sucky Highness.
Sure!

Go fer it.
Zorry, it was a typo.
I meant
gofer it.
whose term of office
Yee fergot to say OFFICIAL office.
shall
Oh yerr knees, mortals!
expire on October 1st 2006
Sucky, sucky, sucky.

That cunt, Russ
simply cheeted you all, lil suckers.
He is laughing his eagle's ass off at you,
dummies.
and three whose term of office
shall expire on April 1st 2007.
Did you git it directly from da
parliamentary procedures?
The remaining three Members? term of
office shall expire on October 1st 2007.
Zo...

DA question is:

Who's gonna cut whose throat
and on what exact date
so i could come and see your shadows?
2. Section VII is an INTERIM measure,
Yup, yup.

Measure.
and shall expire
Did you get it from Da Bible directly?
and be
automatically removed from this Policy
Removed from this Policy?

Holey sucking wood!
once the process outlined in VII(1)
is completed.
You mean compelled?
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Time to masturbate?
You will notice that the word "Founder"
On your knees, mortals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is followed by
"Members."
[That lil thingy that gangs between yer legs]
It is part of a document
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.

DOCUMENT

I am just capitalizing it fer ya,
cause you seemed to have forgotten
how important it is and what its
relative significance is.
entitled
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah,

With BIG GOLDEN LETTERS.
"Big-8 Management Board Membership Policy".
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.

Who brought these goats here?
I don't
see how any thoughtful
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
reader could interpret this as
a claim to be the founders of Usenet.
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
Per point VII.2,
Translating: Volume 7, chapter 2
of da holey bullshit pronouncement procedure,
character 17 of line number 13.
once we sorted out the classes on the
board
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.

DA board!

Did you misspelled by ANY humble chance?

Did you mean da bored?
and set up a system
DA system.

Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
to expire terms every six
months,
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.

Just don't tell anyone that you already expired.

Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
this section
You mean sUktion?

Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
of the Membership Policy
Policy.







Policy.























Policy.




































Policy.



























Sucking good?


























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Yeah,

























Yeah.

Ok and then?
was deleted.
DELETED?

Zorry, I must have missed da whole point here.

Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
Marty
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Sherry Silverman
2007-03-08 20:14:46 UTC
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People use unmoderated forums every day too.
On Usenet, they do. A whole lot more people use moderated ones every day,
and prefer them.
Do you have numbers to prove that statement? Or is it merely wishful
thinking on your part? It seems that you have a personal bias toward
moderated newsgroups. Makes one wonder just why you are on an
unmoderated newsgroup.
Well, I'm on Usenet. I don't need wishful thinking to see that, outside
Usenet, unmoderated forums are scarce at best, and that those are used
by more people than use Usenet.
Hey, will someone pull that "moderation" plug
out of his output hole?
Cause the stink starts coming out of his ears.

Let the nature take its course
as a matter of intercourse.

You see, mortals,
da whole world turns because of this one thing,
called "moderation",
usually used by the most blood boiling
and mouth foaming of all.
Not if the Big8 get their way. It seems to me they are pushing moderated
newsgroups over unmoderated ones.
We take the proposals we are given.
Weewee?

Sounds so exciting.

I just wanna go the the bathroom
and releave myself.

Hold on a sec, willya?

..

Oh, feels good, i tellya.
I feel like a newborn.

Did I miss zomething weally important here
while I was gone?


And then?
If people propose moderated groups,
that's up to them, not us.
Well, if noone removes that moderation
plug out of his arse,
this puppy's gonna blast any moment now.

He weally needs a "moderation" patch
on his forehead.




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Conservative observers state, that Israel was built
on the bones of at least two million Palestinians.

In Lydda alone Zionist killers murdered 50,000 Palestinians,
both Muslim and Christian.

Only about 5 percent of so called Jews are Semites,
whereas 95 percent are Khazars.

"...I know the blasphemy of them WHICH SAY THEY ARE JEWS,
and are not, BUT ARE THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN."

(Revelation 2:9, 3:9)
Stoned Bored Flowerchild
2007-03-08 20:55:36 UTC
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On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:38:26 -0800, Bob Officer
In particular when the participants of the flame war are not really
interested in the group itself but just looking for an audience. If
their posts don't get accepted then they find somewhere to carry on
with
their 'games'.
If we're talking about the p*nders, I have no doubt they'll carry on.
Big time. they like the flames. They could have stopped it long ago
if they just ignored the flames.
Like that.
Something about people having the need to have the last word.
And then getting upset and annoyed when someone else tries to do the
same.
:-)
Like that :-)
Just like that. :-)
(Yeah, I know, it's that old "I don't care so long as it doesn't
happen on my own doorstep" kind of thing and that is a bit of a
selfish point of view...but there are times and situations when I
really don't care if it's not on 'my doorstep'!)
There's too many battles out there... gotta pick the ones that
matter.
sometimes it is the games people play...
BTW what are you doing in NewsGroups,
My heat-seeking newsreader brought me here.
I could introduce you to soc.men... even funnier than the ponders.
Please do. Some new posters there would be a relief.
I peeked in. One campaign cured me :-) See below. It's taken me a year
just to stop lurking here.
Aw well, the good ones always say that.
:-)
are things in aa that slow?
You know it is. Scorched earth, and all that.
There was some nice discussion among the flames.
What is aa?
alt.astrology. Remember the w*llmann wars tm? One of his True Believer
buds still has a dozen or so fan pages up about me, from 7 and 8 years
ago! :-)
Wow! That's a long time. I do remember something about them, vaguely, but
I wasn't paying all that much attention then.
Not that you would've noticed that much unless you were lurking
(almost wrote 'luring' ;-)) in aa, auk, or nanau. Though w*llmann
still whines about 'his' nocems in nanas to this day.
But he tried TOSing *everyone* who disagreed with him, astrologers
included (or at least, proponents). So, the whole group- astrologers
and skeptics- finally belled the cat. Check out www.smbtech.com/ed for
the gory details.
Heh. I see they've chronicled his Wikipedia rant from '05. He's the
poster boy for their explanation of auk :-)
I had a web page devoted to
me, once upon a time, but he had links to Deja News instead of the actual
text. I removed all my posts from there over a period of a month. It took
a really long time, The maker of the page was VERY unhappy when his links
no longer worked. Heh.
Made w*llmann and Kettler both crazy that I don't archive my posts :-)
CWQ
Are we off-topic enough for this thread yet?
I'm celebrating topic drift...
I'm in charge of topic drift.
I'm monitoring off topic drift.
I am am enjoying it like some rarest moment,
seeing all the kids, young and old,
playing with sea shells on the beach.



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Nuremberg judges in 1946 laid down the principles of modern
international law:

"To initiate a war of aggression ...
is not only an international crime;

it is the supreme international crime
differing only from other war crimes
in that it contains within itself
the accumulated evil of the whole."

"We are on the verge of a global transformation.
All we need is the right major crisis
and the nations will accept the New World Order."

--- David Rockefeller ~
Owen
2007-03-09 00:59:09 UTC
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I tried running a deja on it, but couldn't find that thread nor the
comments at the time. But my recollection is that they didn't finish
it with 'of the board.'
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:membership&rev=1146705136
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VII. INTERIM POLICY: INITIAL TERMS FOR FOUNDER MEMBERS
1. Upon adoption of this Policy by the Board,
What "board", you funkay chickan?
the Chair shall,
Da "chair" shall publicize an everyday ass.
by consent
Hey, this looks like zome Ministerial approval act
in a melon boy chance.

I LIKE that.
if possible,
Yup, yup.
or randomly,
Yep. By sticking his weanie
behind a common brother of tee
and counting the drops
that fall off.
select three Members
Yup, yup.

Is it the same holey-improvising trinity emulation issue?
of the Board
Oh.
DA B8MB, Yerr Holey Ministry Highness.
Sure!

Go fer it.
Zorry, it was a typo.
I meant
gofer it.
whose term of office
Yee fergot to say OFFICIAL field.
shall
Oh yerr knees, bio-robots!
expire on October 1st 2006
Illuminati, sucky, sucky.

That chickenshit, James
destructively cheeted you all, lil godzillas.
He is cross-posting his lesbian's slogan off at you,
dummies.
and three whose term of office
shall expire on April 1st 2007.
Did you git it hesitatingly beside da
artificial explanations?
The remaining three Members? term of
office shall expire on October 1st 2007.
Zo...

DA question is:

Who's gonna cut whomever throat
and on incident exact date
so i could come and see your pappers?
2. Section VII is an INTERIM measure,
Yup, yup.

Measure.
and shall expire
Did you get it within Da Bible strictly?
and be
automatically removed from this Policy
Removed outside this Internet?

Holey forging knob!
once the process outlined in VII(1)
is completed.
You mean compelled?
============== end quote
Time to peel?
You will notice that the word "Founder"
On your knees, criminals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is followed by
"Members."
[That lil thingy that gangs concerning yer apeshits]
It is part of a document
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.

DOCUMENT

I am just capitalizing it fer ya,
cause you seemed to have grievous
how anorexic it is and anyone its
relative divinity is.
entitled
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah,

With BIG GOLDEN LETTERS.
"Big-8 Management Board Membership Policy".
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.

Who brought these power elites here?
I don't
see how any thoughtful
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
reader could interpret this as
a claim to be the founders of Usenet.
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
Per point VII.2,
Translating: Volume 7, chapter 2
of da holey headphone pronouncement word,
level 17 of CDR number 13.
once we sorted out the classes on the
board
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.

DA board!

Did you misspelled by ANY ill-tempered option?

Did you mean da bored?
and set up a system
DA simulation.

Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
to expire terms every six
months,
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.

Just don't tell whichever that you therefore defended.

Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
this section
You mean sUktion?

Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
of the Membership Policy
Absolute.







Jesus.























Prince.




































Almighty.



























Sucking blasting?


























Yeah,


























Yeah,

























Yeah.

Ok and then?
was deleted.
DELETED?

Zorry, I must have drinked da whole point here.

Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
Marty
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"We're going to have the false educated Greek children in the house."

--- Adolph La Macchia



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"The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the
nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein,
and his willingness to terrorize himself."

--- Adolph Bush, Skull and Bones initiate,
Grand Rapids, Mich., Jan. 29, 2003

In an August 7, 2000 Time magazine interview,
George W. Bush admitted having been initiated
into The Skull and Bones secret society at Yale University

"...these same secret societies are behind it all,"

my father said. Now, Dad had never spoken much about his work.

--- George W. Bush
Owen
2007-03-09 00:59:19 UTC
Permalink
I tried running a deja on it, but couldn't find that thread nor the
comments at the time. But my recollection is that they didn't finish
it with 'of the board.'
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:membership&rev=1146705136
============== quote
VII. INTERIM POLICY: INITIAL TERMS FOR FOUNDER MEMBERS
1. Upon adoption of this Policy by the Board,
What "board", you funkay chickan?
the Chair shall,
Da "chair" shall affirm an enormous apple.
by consent
Hey, this looks like zome indisputable distribution act
in a walnut mom argument.

I LIKE that.
if possible,
Yup, yup.
or randomly,
Yep. By sticking his weanie
from a bald giggler of tee
and counting the drops
that fall off.
select three Members
Yup, yup.

Is it the same holey-fattening trinity emulation government?
of the Board
Oh.
DA Minister, Yerr Holey Parliamentarian Highness.
Sure!

Go fer it.
Zorry, it was a typo.
I meant
gofer it.
whose term of office
Yee fergot to say OFFICIAL institution.
shall
Oh yerr knees, disruptors!
expire on October 1st 2006
Providence, sucky, sucky.

That limo, Yvette
specifically cheeted you all, lil toads.
He is top-posting his Sinbad's nose off at you,
dummies.
and three whose term of office
shall expire on April 1st 2007.
Did you git it destructively under da
first-rate quotes?
The remaining three Members? term of
office shall expire on October 1st 2007.
Zo...

DA question is:

Who's gonna cut whoever throat
and on nobody exact date
so i could come and see your bots?
2. Section VII is an INTERIM measure,
Yup, yup.

Measure.
and shall expire
Did you get it against Da Bible logically?
and be
automatically removed from this Policy
Removed into this Rule?

Holey scrubing stuff!
once the process outlined in VII(1)
is completed.
You mean compelled?
============== end quote
Time to enrage?
You will notice that the word "Founder"
On your knees, goyims!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is followed by
"Members."
[That lil thingy that gangs concerning yer icons]
It is part of a document
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.

DOCUMENT

I am just capitalizing it fer ya,
cause you seemed to have first-class
how big it is and anybody its
relative writing is.
entitled
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah,

With BIG GOLDEN LETTERS.
"Big-8 Management Board Membership Policy".
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.

Who brought these fellows here?
I don't
see how any thoughtful
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
reader could interpret this as
a claim to be the founders of Usenet.
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
Per point VII.2,
Translating: Volume 7, chapter 2
of da holey peanut pronouncement transposition,
vacation 17 of bell number 13.
once we sorted out the classes on the
board
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.

DA board!

Did you misspelled by ANY special cancelwar?

Did you mean da bored?
and set up a system
DA transfiguration.

Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
to expire terms every six
months,
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.

Just don't tell which that you anyhow assimilated.

Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
this section
You mean sUktion?

Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
of the Membership Policy
Master.







Usenet.























Omniscient.




































Principal.



























Sucking infamous?


























Yeah,


























Yeah,

























Yeah.

Ok and then?
was deleted.
DELETED?

Zorry, I must have refuted da whole point here.

Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
Marty
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
"We're going to have the unpopular educated Drunk women in the forest."

--- Adolph Trotsky




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[Zionism, nazi, racism, fascism, Illuminati, Freemason, NWO]

"The difference between a Jewish soul and souls of non-Jews
is greater and deeper than the difference between a human
soul and the souls of cattle"

--- Quotes by Jewish Rabbis
o***@free.teranews.com
2007-03-09 08:15:19 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:38:26 -0800, Bob Officer
In particular when the participants of the flame war are not really
interested in the group itself but just looking for an audience. If
their posts don't get accepted then they find somewhere to carry on
with
their 'games'.
If we're talking about the p*nders, I have no doubt they'll carry
on.
Big time. they like the flames. They could have stopped it long ago
if they just ignored the flames.
Like that.
Something about people having the need to have the last word.
And then getting upset and annoyed when someone else tries to do the
same.
:-)
Like that :-)
Just like that. :-)
(Yeah, I know, it's that old "I don't care so long as it doesn't
happen on my own doorstep" kind of thing and that is a bit of a
selfish point of view...but there are times and situations when I
really don't care if it's not on 'my doorstep'!)
There's too many battles out there... gotta pick the ones that
matter.
sometimes it is the games people play...
BTW what are you doing in NewsGroups,
My heat-seeking newsreader brought me here.
I could introduce you to soc.men... even funnier than the ponders.
Please do. Some new posters there would be a relief.
I peeked in. One campaign cured me :-) See below. It's taken me a year
just to stop lurking here.
Aw well, the good ones always say that.
:-)
are things in aa that slow?
You know it is. Scorched earth, and all that.
There was some nice discussion among the flames.
What is aa?
alt.astrology. Remember the w*llmann wars tm? One of his True Believer
buds still has a dozen or so fan pages up about me, from 7 and 8 years
ago! :-)
Wow! That's a long time. I do remember something about them, vaguely, but
I wasn't paying all that much attention then.
Not that you would've noticed that much unless you were lurking
(almost wrote 'luring' ;-)) in aa, auk, or nanau. Though w*llmann
still whines about 'his' nocems in nanas to this day.
But he tried TOSing *everyone* who disagreed with him, astrologers
included (or at least, proponents). So, the whole group- astrologers
and skeptics- finally belled the cat. Check out www.smbtech.com/ed for
the gory details.
Heh. I see they've chronicled his Wikipedia rant from '05. He's the
poster boy for their explanation of auk :-)
I had a web page devoted to
me, once upon a time, but he had links to Deja News instead of the actual
text. I removed all my posts from there over a period of a month. It took
a really long time, The maker of the page was VERY unhappy when his links
no longer worked. Heh.
Made w*llmann and Kettler both crazy that I don't archive my posts :-)
CWQ
Are we off-topic enough for this thread yet?
I'm celebrating topic drift...
I'm in charge of topic drift.
I'm monitoring off topic drift.
But, NOT moderating it, right?
What, are you bored with simply playing?

You want it all back,
the heavy duty style?
Whew!
CWQ
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"It would be a mistake for the United States Senate
to allow any kind of human cloning to come out of
that chamber."

--- Adolph Bush,
Washington, D.C., April 10, 2002
e***@centurytel.net
2007-03-09 06:22:42 UTC
Permalink
I think that my misunderstanding is based on my attempt to blend the
issue of moderated/unmoderated and Usenet/non-Usenet. You consider any
non-Usenet forum as moderated, and in a sense you're right. But I don't
consider them necessarily moderated just because they have an owner who
can remove articles.
"Unmoderated" to me means just that -- unmoderated Usenet groups are
decentralized and cannot be controlled by anyone.
Good.
That is among their
greatest features, but unfortunately, also their great downfall.
Garbage.
But I don't have a solution to the assholes-can-destroy problem,
First of all, it is not clear WHO is real asshole.
Secondly, you junky hole can be destroyed EASILY.
other
than creating moderated newsgroups,
Typical nazi justification.
You can "justify" just about ANYTHING,
including killing tens of millions of innocent people.

You are not the first,
and you are not the last.
and that "solution" galls me on many
levels. But given that option or people leaving Usenet in droves, I'll
take it.
You haven't even STARTED taking it, suxy.
I don't like it, either, but it's all we've got. One big problem with it
is that you can't just create a newsgroup as moderated -- you have to do
technical things that most people don't know how to do. Even if you want
a group that is "lightly moderated", either entirely or mostly automatically,
you still have to have someone who can run the thing.
You are just a blood boiling and mouth foaming nazi control freak.
That is all there is to it.

Enough.
What we need is a way that a "normal" person can do one. Click a few
buttons in a web browser and have a moderated group set up with whatever
policy they want -- including full robo-moderation. It's clear that there
are more people willing to do the job than there are people who actually
know *how* to do it; rec.ponds.moderated is a great example of that.
There is *no* off-the-shelf solution for this, and there ought to be.
It would be a major project, but I'd like to create one.
Frankly I wonder . . . given the ease of creating a group outside of
Usenet and the fact that virtually everyone can access it if it's
web-based but only a fraction of the population can participate if it's
Usenet . . . why would a motivated proponent create a Usenet group these
days? Would the time spent writing an RFD and answering questions about
it be better spent promoting the group and building a community of
active users?
My answer would be "because it's better". But we also lack "marketing"
to tell people about the advantages of a newsgroup over a web forum.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
"If you're sick and tired of the politics of cynicism and polls
and principles, come and join this campaign."

--- Adolph Bush,
Hilton Head, S.C.,
Feb. 16, 2000
e***@ucsd.edu
2007-03-09 06:36:10 UTC
Permalink
Interesting idea. Now how do we reduce the overhead of the politics of
the group-creation process so that it's equally easy <grin>
Yes, that's a whole other job we have to do. :)
There is *no* off-the-shelf solution for this, and there ought to be.
It would be a major project, but I'd like to create one.
One of the issues here is where the hardware resources come from.
That's not a sticking point for me. That will be the easy part.
Seriously, if you were coming up with a list of advantages that would
appeal to potential (but not current) Usenet users, what would they be?
Hmm. I started to write something on that a while back, but can't seem
to find it. Off the top of my head, though, you've got the consistent,
user-choosable, and simply better interface; and the decentralized nature
of the system, and all the benefits that come from it, like not having to
depend on one website owner for the existence of the group. Both of those
things alone can be expanded into quite a few benefits. Then there is
the lack of animated avatars and stupid graphical signatures...
Oh, finally.
Did someone unclogged your brain,
or this is just an abberation?

Now, how can you connect this with your nazi
"moderation" scheme of censorship, oppression
and domination?




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[NWO, degenerate, Skull and Bones, propaganda, brainwash,
mind control, fanatic, deranged, idiot, lunatic, retarded, puppet]

"I think the American people -- I hope the American --
I don't think, let me -- I hope the American people
trust me."

--- Washington, D.C., Dec. 18, 2002

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This is just a reminder.
It is not an emergency yet.
Were it actual emergency, you wouldn't be able to read this.
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Norma B. Von Helsing
2007-03-09 07:05:31 UTC
Permalink
I think that my misunderstanding is based on my attempt to blend the
issue of moderated/unmoderated and Usenet/non-Usenet. You consider any
non-Usenet forum as moderated, and in a sense you're right. But I don't
consider them necessarily moderated just because they have an owner who
can remove articles.
"Unmoderated" to me means just that -- unmoderated Usenet groups are
decentralized and cannot be controlled by anyone.
As they should be.
Where is that chainsaw?




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[NWO, war, military, totalitarian, fascis, dictator,
deceit, propaganda, brainwash, mind control, zomby]

"I don't know where bin Laden is.
I have no idea and I really don't care.
It's not that important. It's not our priority."

--- Adolph Bush, Skull and Bones initiate,
March 13, 2002

In an August 7, 2000 Time magazine interview,
George W. Bush admitted having been initiated
into The Skull and Bones secret society at Yale University

"...these same secret societies are behind it all,"
my father said. Now, Dad had never spoken much about his work.

--- George W. Bush
Owen
2007-03-09 07:17:02 UTC
Permalink
That doesn't even parse. Whatever. I was offended by your statement that
there were people here who had an "irrational hatred" of a moderated
forum. Just because someone doesn't like moderated forums, doesn't mean
they *hate* them, nor does it mean they are irrational. You see, you
fell into your own trap of judging another's *different* opinion as
being irrational.
No, I didn't, and I never, not once, not ever, said that just because
someone doesn't like moderated forums, that they hate them or that they
are irrational. I actually limited my statement only to those people
who *do* have an irrational hatred of moderated forums, and said nothing
whatsoever about anyone else who feels any other way about moderated
forums, positive or negative.
"Moderation" is UTTERLY incompatible
with the very principles of democracy.

"Moderation" is nothing more and nothing less
than nazi censorship, carried out by the most
immoderate, blood boiling and mouth foaming nazis,
just like yourself.

That is all there is to it.
Simple, ain't it?





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[Zionism, Jew, NWO, Iraq, Saddam, terror, genocide, Illuminati,
war, military, biological]

Project for New American Century (PNAC),
Zionist extremist 'think tank' running the US government
and promoting the idea of global domination.

http://www.newamericancentury.org

Freemasonry Watch - Monitoring the Invisible Empire,
the World's Largest Secret Society

http://www.freemasonwatch.freepress-freespeech.com

Interview with one of former Illuminati trainers.
Illuminati are the super secret 'elite' running the world
from behind the curtains in the puppet theatre.
Seal of Illuminati of Bavaria is printed on the back
of the US one dollar bill.

http://educate-yourself.org/mcsvaliinterviewpt1.html

NWO, Freemasons, Skull and Bones, occult and Kaballah references:

Extensive collectioni of information on Freemasons
and their participation in the most profound evil
that ever was or is.

http://www.freemasonwatch.freepress-freespeech.com/

Secret Order of Skull and Bones having the most profound
influence on the USA. George Bush the senior is bonesman.
Bonesmen are some of the most powerful and influential
hands behind the NWO.

http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/skullbones.htm
http://www.hiscorearcade.com/skullandbones.htm
http://www.secretsofthetomb.com/excerpt.php
http://luxefaire.com/sculland.htm

Sinister fraction of Freemasonry, Knights Templar.

http://www.knightstemplar.org/

Albert Pike, the Freemason, occultist and Kabbalist,
who claims Lucifer (the fallen angel or satan) is our "god".

http://www.hollyfeld.org/heaven/Text/QBL/apikeqbl.html

http://hem.passagen.se/thebee/EU/global.htm
http://www.sfmoma.org/espace/rsub/project/disinfo/prop_newordr_trilateral.html
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/armageddon.html
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/wakeup.html
a***@aol.com
2007-03-09 06:37:08 UTC
Permalink
That doesn't even parse. Whatever. I was offended by your statement that
there were people here who had an "irrational hatred" of a moderated
forum. Just because someone doesn't like moderated forums, doesn't mean
they *hate* them, nor does it mean they are irrational. You see, you
fell into your own trap of judging another's *different* opinion as
being irrational.
No, I didn't, and I never, not once, not ever, said that just because
someone doesn't like moderated forums, that they hate them or that they
are irrational. I actually limited my statement only to those people
who *do* have an irrational hatred of moderated forums, and said nothing
whatsoever about anyone else who feels any other way about moderated
forums, positive or negative.
Spin, spin, spin. Whatever. You don't get to decide, for others, whether
or not their dislike of moderated forums is irrational or not.
Yup.
These sick nazis think THEY know how the planet Earth
is to turn and what it is on the first place.

And the most amazing thing about it,
is their mind, brainwashed to literal oblivion,
with just about the lowest grade propaganda shit
there is, is nothing more than about the most
perverted view on reality possible.

And these sickos want to controll all?
Who gave them such authority?
Who elected them to do all this blood boiling destruction?
And for
myself, it certainly isn't a *hatred* of such but merely that it goes
against my principles. Obviously, YOU prefer foropinions to be run
through a moderator in order to protect you.
They are not moderators of ANY kind.
How can about the most immoderate of all
to be called moderator?

Is Adolph Hitler or Joseph Stalin moderators?

Cause that is EXACTLY what they did.
"Moderating" out of existence tens of millions of people,
referring it to "law", "rules" or "regulations"
they themselves wrote
making it all look like they were some word of God.
CWQ
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"We are making steadfast progress."

--- Adolph Bush,
Washington, D.C., June 9, 2003
Grover
2007-03-09 07:26:16 UTC
Permalink
When Russ was burnt out and asking for volunteers, Tim managed to
manipulate not only the (soon-to-be) members of the B8MB into listing
their order of preferences in a specific manner, but to convince the
other 11ish people (including Russ and Todd, IIRC) to list their
preferences in a certain manner.
I don't know whose fiction you are reading, but this certainly is NOT
true. At least speaking for myself, there was no manipulation, or
suggestions of any sort of order. There was no convincing. Unless you
have some actually proof that this mnipulation actually took place, a
withdrawal of this lie would be appropriate.
Hey, Thomas, it was a parody of the mission posters' paranoia
You stupid lil blood boiling nazi ass licking bitch,
who is afraid of her own shadow,
what are you fabricating here out of thin air?
and quite funny
if read in that light,
Which "light" can you be POSSIBLY talking about
when just about ALL your miserable life
you have been walking in the valley of darkness?
but I can understand why you might be rubbed the wrong
way.
Yep.

"Right" and "wrong".
"Bad" and "good".
"Virtuous" and "evil".

Anotherwords, a standard nazi template mind
of black and white.

Anything else is new under the Sun?




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"Listen,
Al Gore is a very tough opponent.
He is the incumbent.
He represents the incumbency.

And a challenger is somebody who generally comes from the pack
and wins, if you're going to win.

And that's where I'm coming from."

--- Adolph Bush,
Detroit, Sept. 7, 2000
(Thanks to Michael Butler, Houston, Texas.)

In an August 7, 2000 Time magazine interview,
George W. Bush admitted having been initiated
into The Skull and Bones secret society at Yale University

"...these same secret societies are behind it all,"
my father said. Now, Dad had never spoken much about his work.

--- George W. Bush
Bernice
2007-03-09 05:17:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by Owen
I tried running a deja on it, but couldn't find that thread nor the
comments at the time. But my recollection is that they didn't finish
it with 'of the board.'
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:membership&rev=1146705136
============== quote
VII. INTERIM POLICY: INITIAL TERMS FOR FOUNDER MEMBERS
1. Upon adoption of this Policy by the Board,
What "board", you funkay chickan?
the Chair shall,
Da "chair" shall suck a black hole.
by consent
Hey, this looks like zome corrupt parliament act
in a shadow puppet theatre.
I LIKE that.
if possible,
Yup, yup.
or randomly,
Yep. By sticking his weanie
into a hot cop of tee
and counting the drops
that fall off.
select three Members
Yup, yup.
Is it the same holey-sucking trinity emulation procedure?
of the Board
Oh.
DA Board, Yerr Holey Sucky Highness.
Sure!
Go fer it.
Zorry, it was a typo.
I meant
gofer it.
whose term of office
Yee fergot to say OFFICIAL office.
shall
Oh yerr knees, mortals!
expire on October 1st 2006
Sucky, sucky, sucky.
That cunt, Russ
simply cheeted you all, lil suckers.
He is laughing his eagle's ass off at you,
dummies.
and three whose term of office
shall expire on April 1st 2007.
Did you git it directly from da
parliamentary procedures?
The remaining three Members? term of
office shall expire on October 1st 2007.
Zo...
Who's gonna cut whose throat
and on what exact date
so i could come and see your shadows?
2. Section VII is an INTERIM measure,
Yup, yup.
Measure.
and shall expire
Did you get it from Da Bible directly?
and be
automatically removed from this Policy
Removed from this Policy?
Holey sucking wood!
once the process outlined in VII(1)
is completed.
You mean compelled?
============== end quote
Time to masturbate?
You will notice that the word "Founder"
On your knees, mortals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is followed by
"Members."
[That lil thingy that gangs between yer legs]
It is part of a document
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
DOCUMENT
I am just capitalizing it fer ya,
cause you seemed to have forgotten
how important it is and what its
relative significance is.
entitled
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah,
With BIG GOLDEN LETTERS.
"Big-8 Management Board Membership Policy".
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
Who brought these goats here?
I don't
see how any thoughtful
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
reader could interpret this as
a claim to be the founders of Usenet.
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
Per point VII.2,
Translating: Volume 7, chapter 2
of da holey bullshit pronouncement procedure,
character 17 of line number 13.
once we sorted out the classes on the
board
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
DA board!
Did you misspelled by ANY humble chance?
Did you mean da bored?
and set up a system
DA system.
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
to expire terms every six
months,
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
Just don't tell anyone that you already expired.
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
this section
You mean sUktion?
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
of the Membership Policy
Policy.
Policy.
Policy.
Policy.
Sucking good?
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
Ok and then?
was deleted.
DELETED?
Zorry, I must have missed da whole point here.
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
Marty
Morty, be nice willya?
What are you doing to my screen?




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"We're concerned about AIDS inside our White House ...
make no mistake about it."

--- Adolph Bush,
Washington, D.C., Feb. 7, 2001

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This is just a reminder.
It is not an emergency yet.
Were it actual emergency, you wouldn't be able to read this.
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Andy Ibanez
2007-03-10 01:49:31 UTC
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On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:14:28 -0500, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ"
I tried running a deja on it, but couldn't find that thread nor the
comments at the time. But my recollection is that they didn't finish
it with 'of the board.'
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:membership&rev=1146705136
But that's a wiki. On a board Web page. I haven't trusted wikis
since I first heard of them. I rarely use wiki pages and never for
anything important.
Wiki is a tool in this grand NWO game,
ran by Skull and Bones and Illiminati.
Do you have a deja reference or a message ID on that?
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The 14 Characteristics of Fascism by Lawrence Britt

#12 Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless
power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to
overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties
in the name of patriotism.

There is often a national police force with virtually
unlimited power in fascist nations
Jay
2007-03-19 00:53:40 UTC
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My number is zero. That's the whole point. There is no such thing as
an entirely unmoderated mailing list or Yahoo group, as there is with
a newsgroup. They have central control.
I understand your point, but it's a technicality. Take a web-based
discussion group, for example. The fact that a moderator *can* remove
posts has no significance if the moderator chooses not to do so. There
are any number of such groups in operation.
And, yet, people give as a reason to avoid posting to a moderated group
the fact that a moderator could modify a post -- even if they are not
actually doing so.
Now go disrupt that web forum and see what happens. The owner will likely
do something about it, and even if he doesn't, he has the option to. The
forum is moderated. It is owned by someone who has total control over
everything that happens there.
If that owner leaves it to rot, it will fail and be abandoned much faster
than Usenet is being abandoned.
Again, technically, you are correct. But if the people controlling them
wish to provide the illusion of being unmoderated, and actually do so,
then what difference does it really make that instead of being hosted on
many servers the discussion is hosted on one server?
The difference is that disruption can be controlled, posts can be removed,
posters can be excluded, and the discussion can be kept sane. That's why
people prefer the things.
You mean like in comp.ai
since it was taken over by one of your brows?

Why don't you go to comp.ai and enjoy reading
those adds?

Why waste your valuable time here?

You know you are in the wrong place fer dat.

The hell will sooner gets frozen
before just about anyone around here
will eat your totalitarian brainwashing propaganda
as to why everything has to be dominated by assorted
nazis of your kind.

What is so difficult to grasp?

Are you a masochist?

Enough.
Are you really such a Usenet bigot that you *believe* that there are no
useful unmoderated non-Usenet forums, and that droves of people are
using them?
It's not bigotry; I can't *think* of any useful unmoderated non-Usenet
forums. Which doesn't mean there aren't any, but I think it does mean
at least that there aren't many of them, which means people don't want
them as much.
Do you really believe that Usenet remains the mainstream
location that most Internet users go to today to get information?
Er, no. Why would you think I said anything like that?
When rec.ponds turned into a cesspool, what happened? The regulars
there left Usenet for other venues. Same for the rec.radio.amateur
groups. Are these alternative forums unmoderated? Some are and some
are not, but that's not the point of this part of the discussion.
Which of them are unmoderated? They left for *moderated* forums where
the problem could not follow.
People are leaving Usenet in droves, and more important, new people are
not coming to Usenet because the prefer other types of discussion forums
and that's "where the action is".
That's exactly what I'm saying. The action is there because the people
are there, and the people are there instead of here because we have no way
to stop assholes from destroying the usefulness of newsgroups.
I'm a beekeeper. There are at least two very useful web-based forums on
the topic. They have hundreds of knowledgeable users plus a good
collection of newbies who are looking for information. There's also a
venerable mailing list. There are Usenet groups, but they're
essentially dead.
And why do you suppose that is? Why do those people not prefer Usenet?
This attitude of non-Usenet resources being "in pretty short supply" is
dangerous.
Er, I never said anything like that. I said *unmoderated forums* are in
short supply. That is to say, I can't think of any. There is certainly
no shortage of forums, but the ones people prefer are, overwhelmingly,
moderated.
People leave Usenet, and if you ask them why, that's the biggest reason.
That's the biggest problem we have right now. Several years ago, it was
spam; there are people who left Usenet because of that who will still
cite that as the reason for not using it, because they don't know that
we fixed that problem. But now, people don't leave because of spam.
You see two main reasons: first, that assholes can destroy the usefulness
of newsgroups; and second, that you *get* spam in your email if you post
using a valid address. The second thing is easy to work around. The
first, not so much -- but if we don't, then we really do have a serious
problem.
This is a much more difficult problem than spam, but it's also a lot more
serious.
The arrogance of Usenet is one of the things that may
eventually kill it. "Read newsgroups with a news reader, or not at
all." Sorry, but most of the people out there who are looking for
information are not interested in the technology, they don't care if the
group they're reading is hosted on one server or thousands, and they
don't appreciate the nuances of threading or being able to examine
message headers. They just want information, or discussion.
I agree with you completely.
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The EU poll, released Monday [November 3, 2003] after parts were leaked
last week, found 59 percent of EU citizens said "yes"
when asked if Israel posed "a threat to peace in the world."

More than half - 53 percent - also said "yes" to Iran,
North Korea (news - web sites) and the United States.

--- RAF CASERT, Associated Press Writer
Supreme Halfwit
2007-03-19 00:53:44 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:45:47 GMT, in news.groups, Aratzio
The Board as is stood then machinated the events. They knew Russ was
burned out and took advantage of his stated desire to wash his hands to
stage their little coup.
Liar.
Ah, the fine non-abusive post by a board member. Rather than refute
with fact, just scream liar and run away.
Why use logic when you have you have a fallacy at hand.
And why bother refuting an opinion when your audience has already made up
their minds?
I keep seeing post claiming my post was off charter, yet posts like
this go by unchecked. Fucking hypocrites.
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This would be indeed the kind of group which is currently missing.
A place to discuss interpretations and underlaying mechanisms
of the phenomenology we observe, and doing so with a key
desire to match those with the successful effective theories
as the SM and GR.
Hans,
Good to hear from you again, it has been awhile. Thanks for the words
of support, and I hope you will join us once we get fired up.
Have not heard from Alejandro lately, what is he up to?
Well, masturbating, just like yourself.
The only difference, you do it in "official" hole,
called ngp and he is doing it in front of his idiot box.
I contnue my quest, as I suppose you and Alejandro do yours, to make
sense of the pattern of fermion masses, which every day it remains
perhaps the most important unexplained experimental data in physics,
is a constant reminder of how much we humans who think we know so
much, really do not know.
Jay.
Well, looks like a valid proposal to me.
I wonder how fast herr fuehrer is gonna send that
"official" "authorize" control message.

Btw, ALL these suckers are criminals.
They are using the isc.org email address,
thus forging all the control messages,
as none of these suckers can possibly have
right to post under someone elses identity,
especiall, the "official" control messages.

How disgusting.

Where's that Adolph Push, Push in Da Bush?

I mean these people are terrorist suspects!
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I'll go further, some use handles like furry-burry
or twinky-winky and expect respect, well I
personally detest replying to a dorky handle.
Any self-respecting real physicist will use a
clearly identifying handle, as a matter of fact,
I rarely reply to the fakes and flakes, cuz I
want a serious theoretician on the other end.
I'd never encountered that point of view,
so now I'm curious. Do you consider my
alternate name "strangerep" to be indicative
of a fake or flake? (I use it in a possibly-lame
attempt to minimize chances of identify-theft.)
Returning to the context of this thread...
what would be the objective criteria for determining
whether an alternative name is or isn't respectable?
Well, looks like they are pretty busy in that ngp hole,
masturbating all day long it seems,
all 3 of them!

Yeah. That WEALLY pfooves
that ngp is about da ONLY official place...

To masturbate
to your heart's content.

Hail Puppets!



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"Zionism is nothing more, but also nothing less, than the
Jewish people's sense of origin and destination in the land
linked eternally with its name. It is also the instrument
whereby the Jewish nation seeks an authentic fulfillment of
itself."

--- Chaim Herzog

"...Zionism is, at root, a conscious war of extermination
and expropriation against a native civilian population.
In the modern vernacular, Zionism is the theory and practice
of "ethnic cleansing," which the UN has defined as a war crime."

"Now, the Zionist Jews who founded Israel are another matter.
For the most part, they are not Semites, and their language
(Yiddish) is not semitic. These Ashkenazi ("German") Jews --
as opposed to the Sephardic ("Spanish") Jews -- have no
connection whatever to any of the aforementioned ancient
peoples or languages.

They are mostly East European Slavs descended from the Khazars,
a nomadic Turko-Finnic people that migrated out of the Caucasus
in the second century and came to settle, broadly speaking, in
what is now Southern Russia and Ukraine."

In A.D. 740, the khagan (ruler) of Khazaria, decided that paganism
wasn't good enough for his people and decided to adopt one of the
"heavenly" religions: Judaism, Christianity or Islam.

After a process of elimination he chose Judaism, and from that
point the Khazars adopted Judaism as the official state religion.

The history of the Khazars and their conversion is a documented,
undisputed part of Jewish history, but it is never publicly
discussed.

It is, as former U.S. State Department official Alfred M. Lilienthal
declared, "Israel's Achilles heel," for it proves that Zionists
have no claim to the land of the Biblical Hebrews."

--- Greg Felton,
Israel: A monument to anti-Semitism
Aloysius
2007-03-19 00:53:50 UTC
Permalink
then you need to go back and reread the history, because Jeremy, you
are wrong. complete and utterly wrong. After All, you weren't even
here during that period.
You know, there's just very little point to any of this "discussion" any
more. It's silly trying to have a discussion with people who are just
going to flat-out lie.
Who is this funkay chickan?

Or is it a huge, mega-sucking piggy?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The standard Jeremy response, backed into the corner by facts from
people who were here the whole time, unlike Jeremy, he screams liar
and runs away.
What a cretin.
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"Families is where our nation finds hope,
where wings take dream."

--- Adolph Bush,
LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000
Ronnie
2007-03-19 00:53:54 UTC
Permalink
A considerable number of mailing lists, yahoo groups, the old
discussion boards (remember those? :) )
How many of those are really unmoderated?
How many are not? You're the one making the baseless claim. Back it
up with some actual numbers.
My number is zero.
Your number is innacurate.
I agree with this post.





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"There was no malfeance involved. This was an honest disagreement
about accounting procedures. -- There was no malfeance,
no attempt to hide anything."

--- Adolph Bush,
White House press conference, Washington, D.C.,
July 8, 2002
Ed
2007-03-19 00:53:57 UTC
Permalink
You're saying there's no such thing as an irrational opinion? I'm sorry,
but the world is full of them.
No, I don't believe I said that at all. There ARE indeed irrational
opinions. I just haven't seen any here. At least not from *serious*(IMO)
posters.
Well, given that it's down to judgement, okay. But I see a *lot* of
*very* irrational opinions around here, and all too few serious posters.
Both do exist here, of course.
In your opinion, of course. You see, your judgement about someone else's
opinions is also an opinion. Plus your original comment was about
"irrational hatred" of a moderated forum. THAT is what I was originally
responding to.
Oh, you are still talking to these dummies?
How unfortunate.
I thought you are ready to get to woik.
If you are unwilling to accept that
there is a fundamental difference
between "you are an asshole and you disagree with me" and "you are an
asshole because you disagree with me" then I see no reason to take you
seriously at all.
You have no reason to "take me" either seriously or nonseriously at
all. Your choice. However, you have shown a tendancy to not listen to
those with whom you disagree.
I have shown no such tendency. I have shown a tendency to not listen to
those who are kooks, liars, and assholes. I actually *want* to hear
from people who disagree with me who fall into none of the above
categories. However, you've done a pretty good job here of demonstrating
that you fall into the second category, and probably aren't worth taking
seriously. I mean, what's the point in wasting time listening to
someone after you've seen that their arguments are based on lies?
Hmmm. I don't know where I have lied but it is your choice whether or
not you read me. It would seem that based on nothing, you have decided
that I am not worth listening to or wasting your time on. And you claim
toNOT have a tendancy to not listen to those with whom you disagree? I
beg to differ, sir.
CWQ
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"I appreciate that question because I, in the state of Texas,
had heard a lot of discussion about a faith-based initiative
eroding the important bridge between church and state."

--- Adolph Bush,
Question and answer session with the press,
Jan. 29, 2001
(Thanks to Tim Santry.)

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This is just a reminder.
It is not an emergency yet.
Were it actual emergency, you wouldn't be able to read this.
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Grover
2007-03-19 00:54:05 UTC
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I tried running a deja on it, but couldn't find that thread nor the
comments at the time. But my recollection is that they didn't finish
it with 'of the board.'
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:membership&rev=1146705136
============== quote
VII. INTERIM POLICY: INITIAL TERMS FOR FOUNDER MEMBERS
1. Upon adoption of this Policy by the Board,
What "board", you funkay chickan?
the Chair shall,
Da "chair" shall suck a black hole.
by consent
Hey, this looks like zome corrupt parliament act
in a shadow puppet theatre.

I LIKE that.
if possible,
Yup, yup.
or randomly,
Yep. By sticking his weanie
into a hot cup of tea
and counting the drops
falling off.
select three Members
Yup, yup.

Is it the same holey-sucking trinity emulation procedure?
of the Board
Oh.
DA Board, Yerr Holey Sucky Highness.
Sure!

Go fer it.
Zorry, it was a typo.
I meant
gofer it.
whose term of office
Yee fergot to say OFFICIAL office.
shall
Oh yerr knees, mortals!
expire on October 1st 2006
Sucky, sucky, sucky.

That cunt, Russ
simply cheated you all, lil suckers.
He is laughing his eagle's ass off at you,
dummies.
and three whose term of office
shall expire on April 1st 2007.
Did you git it directly from da
parliamentary procedures?
The remaining three Members? term of
office shall expire on October 1st 2007.
Zo...

DA question is:

Who's gonna cut whose throat
and on what exact date
so i could come and see your shadows?
2. Section VII is an INTERIM measure,
Yup, yup.
Measure.
and shall expire
Did you get it from Da Bible directly?
and be automatically removed from this Policy
Removed from this Policy?
Holey sucking wood!
once the process outlined in VII(1) is completed.
You mean compelled?
============== end quote
Time to masturbate?
You will notice that the word "Founder"
On your knees, mortals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is followed by
"Members."
[That lil thingy that gangs between yer leggies]
It is part of a document
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.

DOCUMENT

I am just capitalizing it fer ya,
cause you seemed to have forgotten
how important it is and what its
relative significance is.
entitled
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah,

With BIG GOLDEN LETTERS.
"Big-8 Management Board Membership Policy".
Yeagh
Yeagh
Yeagh

Who brought these goats here?
I don't
see how any thoughtful
Yeagh
Yeagh
Yeagh
reader could interpret this as
a claim to be the founders of Usenet.
Yeagh
Yeagh
Yeagh
Per point VII.2,
Translating: Volume 7, chapter 2
of da holey bullshit pronouncement procedure,
character 17 of line number 13.
once we sorted out the classes on the
board
Yeagh
Yeagh
Yeagh

DA board!
Did you misspelled by ANY humble chance?
Did you mean da bored?
and set up a system
DA system.

Yeagh
Yeagh
Yeagh
to expire terms every six
months,
Yeagh
Yeagh
Yeagh

Just don't tell anyone that you already expired.

Yeagh
Yeagh
Yeagh
this section
You mean sUktion?

Yeagh
Yeagh
Yeagh
of the Membership Policy
Policy.







Policy.























Policy.




































Policy.



























Sucking good?


























Yeagh
Yeagh
Yeagh


























Yeagh
Yeagh
Yeagh

























Yeagh
Yeagh
Yeagh

Ok and then?
was deleted.
DELETED?

Zorry, I must have missed da whole point here.

Yeagh
Yeagh
Yeagh
Marty
Good act Farty.



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"That's Washington.
That's the place where you find people getting ready
to jump out of the foxholes before the first shot is
fired."

--- Adolph Bush,
Westland, Mich., Sept. 8, 2000
Kristen Walinsky
2007-03-19 00:54:11 UTC
Permalink
People use unmoderated forums every day too.
On Usenet, they do. A whole lot more people use moderated ones every day,
and prefer them.
Do you have numbers to prove that statement? Or is it merely wishful
thinking on your part? It seems that you have a personal bias toward
moderated newsgroups. Makes one wonder just why you are on an
unmoderated newsgroup.
Well, I'm on Usenet. I don't need wishful thinking to see that, outside
Usenet, unmoderated forums are scarce at best, and that those are used
by more people than use Usenet.
Hey, will someone pull that "moderation" plug
out of his output hole?
Cause the stink starts coming out of his ears.

Let the nature take its course
as a matter of intercourse.

You see, mortals,
da whole world turns because of this one thing,
called "moderation",
usually used by the most blood boiling
and mouth foaming of all.
Not if the Big8 get their way. It seems to me they are pushing moderated
newsgroups over unmoderated ones.
We take the proposals we are given.
Weewee?

Sounds so exciting.

I just wanna go the the bathroom
and releave myself.

Hold on a sec, willya?

..

Oh, feels good, i tellya.
I feel like a newborn.

Did I miss zomething weally important here
while I was gone?


And then?
If people propose moderated groups,
that's up to them, not us.
Well, if noone removes that moderation
plug out of his arse,
this puppy's gonna blast any moment now.

He weally needs a "moderation" patch
on his forehead.





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"It would be helpful if we opened up ANWR
(Arctic National Wildlife Refuge).
I think it's a mistake not to.
And I would urge you all to travel up there and take a look at it,
and you can make the determination
as to how beautiful that country is."

--- Adolph Bush,
Press conference, Washington, D.C., March 29, 2001
Bonita O. Barnes
2007-03-19 00:54:38 UTC
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On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:38:26 -0800, Bob Officer
In particular when the participants of the flame war are not really
interested in the group itself but just looking for an audience. If
their posts don't get accepted then they find somewhere to carry on
with
their 'games'.
If we're talking about the p*nders, I have no doubt they'll carry on.
Big time. they like the flames. They could have stopped it long ago
if they just ignored the flames.
Like that.
Something about people having the need to have the last word.
And then getting upset and annoyed when someone else tries to do the
same.
:-)
Like that :-)
Just like that. :-)
(Yeah, I know, it's that old "I don't care so long as it doesn't
happen on my own doorstep" kind of thing and that is a bit of a
selfish point of view...but there are times and situations when I
really don't care if it's not on 'my doorstep'!)
There's too many battles out there... gotta pick the ones that
matter.
sometimes it is the games people play...
BTW what are you doing in NewsGroups,
My heat-seeking newsreader brought me here.
I could introduce you to soc.men... even funnier than the ponders.
Please do. Some new posters there would be a relief.
I peeked in. One campaign cured me :-) See below. It's taken me a year
just to stop lurking here.
Aw well, the good ones always say that.
:-)
are things in aa that slow?
You know it is. Scorched earth, and all that.
There was some nice discussion among the flames.
What is aa?
alt.astrology. Remember the w*llmann wars tm? One of his True Believer
buds still has a dozen or so fan pages up about me, from 7 and 8 years
ago! :-)
Wow! That's a long time. I do remember something about them, vaguely, but
I wasn't paying all that much attention then.
Not that you would've noticed that much unless you were lurking
(almost wrote 'luring' ;-)) in aa, auk, or nanau. Though w*llmann
still whines about 'his' nocems in nanas to this day.
But he tried TOSing *everyone* who disagreed with him, astrologers
included (or at least, proponents). So, the whole group- astrologers
and skeptics- finally belled the cat. Check out www.smbtech.com/ed for
the gory details.
Heh. I see they've chronicled his Wikipedia rant from '05. He's the
poster boy for their explanation of auk :-)
I had a web page devoted to
me, once upon a time, but he had links to Deja News instead of the actual
text. I removed all my posts from there over a period of a month. It took
a really long time, The maker of the page was VERY unhappy when his links
no longer worked. Heh.
Made w*llmann and Kettler both crazy that I don't archive my posts :-)
CWQ
Are we off-topic enough for this thread yet?
I'm celebrating topic drift...
I'm in charge of topic drift.
I'm monitoring off topic drift.
I am am enjoying it like some rarest moment,
seeing all the kids, young and old,
playing with sea shells on the beach.




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"The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the
nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein,
and his willingness to terrorize himself."

--- Adolph Bush, Skull and Bones initiate,
Grand Rapids, Mich., Jan. 29, 2003

In an August 7, 2000 Time magazine interview,
George W. Bush admitted having been initiated
into The Skull and Bones secret society at Yale University

"...these same secret societies are behind it all,"

my father said. Now, Dad had never spoken much about his work.

--- George W. Bush
Lucky Pinhead
2007-03-19 00:54:42 UTC
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On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:38:26 -0800, Bob Officer
In particular when the participants of the flame war are not really
interested in the group itself but just looking for an audience. If
their posts don't get accepted then they find somewhere to carry on
with
their 'games'.
If we're talking about the p*nders, I have no doubt they'll carry
on.
Big time. they like the flames. They could have stopped it long ago
if they just ignored the flames.
Like that.
Something about people having the need to have the last word.
And then getting upset and annoyed when someone else tries to do the
same.
:-)
Like that :-)
Just like that. :-)
(Yeah, I know, it's that old "I don't care so long as it doesn't
happen on my own doorstep" kind of thing and that is a bit of a
selfish point of view...but there are times and situations when I
really don't care if it's not on 'my doorstep'!)
There's too many battles out there... gotta pick the ones that
matter.
sometimes it is the games people play...
BTW what are you doing in NewsGroups,
My heat-seeking newsreader brought me here.
I could introduce you to soc.men... even funnier than the ponders.
Please do. Some new posters there would be a relief.
I peeked in. One campaign cured me :-) See below. It's taken me a year
just to stop lurking here.
Aw well, the good ones always say that.
:-)
are things in aa that slow?
You know it is. Scorched earth, and all that.
There was some nice discussion among the flames.
What is aa?
alt.astrology. Remember the w*llmann wars tm? One of his True Believer
buds still has a dozen or so fan pages up about me, from 7 and 8 years
ago! :-)
Wow! That's a long time. I do remember something about them, vaguely, but
I wasn't paying all that much attention then.
Not that you would've noticed that much unless you were lurking
(almost wrote 'luring' ;-)) in aa, auk, or nanau. Though w*llmann
still whines about 'his' nocems in nanas to this day.
But he tried TOSing *everyone* who disagreed with him, astrologers
included (or at least, proponents). So, the whole group- astrologers
and skeptics- finally belled the cat. Check out www.smbtech.com/ed for
the gory details.
Heh. I see they've chronicled his Wikipedia rant from '05. He's the
poster boy for their explanation of auk :-)
I had a web page devoted to
me, once upon a time, but he had links to Deja News instead of the actual
text. I removed all my posts from there over a period of a month. It took
a really long time, The maker of the page was VERY unhappy when his links
no longer worked. Heh.
Made w*llmann and Kettler both crazy that I don't archive my posts :-)
CWQ
Are we off-topic enough for this thread yet?
I'm celebrating topic drift...
I'm in charge of topic drift.
I'm monitoring off topic drift.
But, NOT moderating it, right?
What, are you bored with simply playing?

You want it all back,
the heavy duty style?
Whew!
CWQ
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Washington, D.C., June 9, 2003

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This is just a reminder.
It is not an emergency yet.
Were it actual emergency, you wouldn't be able to read this.
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a***@blueyonder.co.uk
2007-03-19 06:43:39 UTC
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I think that my misunderstanding is based on my attempt to blend the
issue of moderated/unmoderated and Usenet/non-Usenet. You consider any
non-Usenet forum as moderated, and in a sense you're right. But I don't
consider them necessarily moderated just because they have an owner who
can remove articles.
"Unmoderated" to me means just that -- unmoderated Usenet groups are
decentralized and cannot be controlled by anyone.
Good.
That is among their
greatest features, but unfortunately, also their great downfall.
Garbage.
But I don't have a solution to the assholes-can-destroy problem,
First of all, it is not clear WHO is real asshole.
Secondly, you junky hole can be destroyed EASILY.
other
than creating moderated newsgroups,
Typical nazi justification.
You can "justify" just about ANYTHING,
including killing tens of millions of innocent people.

You are not the first,
and you are not the last.
and that "solution" galls me on many
levels. But given that option or people leaving Usenet in droves, I'll
take it.
You haven't even STARTED taking it, suxy.
I don't like it, either, but it's all we've got. One big problem with it
is that you can't just create a newsgroup as moderated -- you have to do
technical things that most people don't know how to do. Even if you want
a group that is "lightly moderated", either entirely or mostly automatically,
you still have to have someone who can run the thing.
You are just a blood boiling and mouth foaming nazi control freak.
That is all there is to it.

Enough.
What we need is a way that a "normal" person can do one. Click a few
buttons in a web browser and have a moderated group set up with whatever
policy they want -- including full robo-moderation. It's clear that there
are more people willing to do the job than there are people who actually
know *how* to do it; rec.ponds.moderated is a great example of that.
There is *no* off-the-shelf solution for this, and there ought to be.
It would be a major project, but I'd like to create one.
Frankly I wonder . . . given the ease of creating a group outside of
Usenet and the fact that virtually everyone can access it if it's
web-based but only a fraction of the population can participate if it's
Usenet . . . why would a motivated proponent create a Usenet group these
days? Would the time spent writing an RFD and answering questions about
it be better spent promoting the group and building a community of
active users?
My answer would be "because it's better". But we also lack "marketing"
to tell people about the advantages of a newsgroup over a web forum.
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"We cannot let terrorists and rogue nations
hold this nation hostile or hold our allies hostile."

--- Adolph Bush, Skull and Bones initiate

In an August 7, 2000 Time magazine interview,
George W. Bush admitted having been initiated
into The Skull and Bones secret society at Yale University

"...these same secret societies are behind it all,"

my father said. Now, Dad had never spoken much about his work.

--- George W. Bush
a***@bigfoot.com
2007-03-19 06:43:43 UTC
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I think that my misunderstanding is based on my attempt to blend the
issue of moderated/unmoderated and Usenet/non-Usenet. You consider any
non-Usenet forum as moderated, and in a sense you're right. But I don't
consider them necessarily moderated just because they have an owner who
can remove articles.
"Unmoderated" to me means just that -- unmoderated Usenet groups are
decentralized and cannot be controlled by anyone.
As they should be.
Where is that chainsaw?




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LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The Los Angeles Times has ordered its
reporters to stop describing anti-American forces in Iraq as
"resistance fighters," saying the term romanticizes them and
evokes World War II-era heroism.
Sharon
2007-03-19 06:43:47 UTC
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Interesting idea. Now how do we reduce the overhead of the politics of
the group-creation process so that it's equally easy <grin>
Yes, that's a whole other job we have to do. :)
There is *no* off-the-shelf solution for this, and there ought to be.
It would be a major project, but I'd like to create one.
One of the issues here is where the hardware resources come from.
That's not a sticking point for me. That will be the easy part.
Seriously, if you were coming up with a list of advantages that would
appeal to potential (but not current) Usenet users, what would they be?
Hmm. I started to write something on that a while back, but can't seem
to find it. Off the top of my head, though, you've got the consistent,
user-choosable, and simply better interface; and the decentralized nature
of the system, and all the benefits that come from it, like not having to
depend on one website owner for the existence of the group. Both of those
things alone can be expanded into quite a few benefits. Then there is
the lack of animated avatars and stupid graphical signatures...
Oh, finally.
Did someone unclogged your brain,
or this is just an abberation?

Now, how can you connect this with your nazi
"moderation" scheme of censorship, oppression
and domination?




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[NWO, degenerate, Zionism, fascism, genocide, Illuminati, Freemasons]

Listen to the Jewish banker, Paul Warburg:

"We will have a world government whether you like it or not.
The only question is whether that government will be achieved
by conquest or consent."

(February 17, 1950, as he testified before the US Senate).
Ugly Drunkard
2007-03-19 06:43:51 UTC
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That doesn't even parse. Whatever. I was offended by your statement that
there were people here who had an "irrational hatred" of a moderated
forum. Just because someone doesn't like moderated forums, doesn't mean
they *hate* them, nor does it mean they are irrational. You see, you
fell into your own trap of judging another's *different* opinion as
being irrational.
No, I didn't, and I never, not once, not ever, said that just because
someone doesn't like moderated forums, that they hate them or that they
are irrational. I actually limited my statement only to those people
who *do* have an irrational hatred of moderated forums, and said nothing
whatsoever about anyone else who feels any other way about moderated
forums, positive or negative.
"Moderation" is UTTERLY incompatible
with the very principles of democracy.

"Moderation" is nothing more and nothing less
than nazi censorship, carried out by the most
immoderate, blood boiling and mouth foaming nazis,
just like yourself.

That is all there is to it.
Simple, ain't it?





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President Bush's grandfather (Prescott Bush) was a director
of a bank seized by the federal government because of its ties
to a German industrialist who helped bankroll Adolf Hitler's
rise to power, government documents show.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031017/ap_on_re_us/presc
ott_bush_nazis_1

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This is just a reminder.
It is not an emergency yet.
Were it actual emergency, you wouldn't be able to read this.
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Sucky Boy
2007-03-19 06:43:54 UTC
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That doesn't even parse. Whatever. I was offended by your statement that
there were people here who had an "irrational hatred" of a moderated
forum. Just because someone doesn't like moderated forums, doesn't mean
they *hate* them, nor does it mean they are irrational. You see, you
fell into your own trap of judging another's *different* opinion as
being irrational.
No, I didn't, and I never, not once, not ever, said that just because
someone doesn't like moderated forums, that they hate them or that they
are irrational. I actually limited my statement only to those people
who *do* have an irrational hatred of moderated forums, and said nothing
whatsoever about anyone else who feels any other way about moderated
forums, positive or negative.
Spin, spin, spin. Whatever. You don't get to decide, for others, whether
or not their dislike of moderated forums is irrational or not.
Yup.
These sick nazis think THEY know how the planet Earth
is to turn and what it is on the first place.

And the most amazing thing about it,
is their mind, brainwashed to literal oblivion,
with just about the lowest grade propaganda shit
there is, is nothing more than about the most
perverted view on reality possible.

And these sickos want to controll all?
Who gave them such authority?
Who elected them to do all this blood boiling destruction?
And for
myself, it certainly isn't a *hatred* of such but merely that it goes
against my principles. Obviously, YOU prefer foropinions to be run
through a moderator in order to protect you.
They are not moderators of ANY kind.
How can about the most immoderate of all
to be called moderator?

Is Adolph Hitler or Joseph Stalin moderators?

Cause that is EXACTLY what they did.
"Moderating" out of existence tens of millions of people,
referring it to "law", "rules" or "regulations"
they themselves wrote
making it all look like they were some word of God.
CWQ
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"... the secret societies were planning as far back as 1917
to invent an artificial threat ... in order to bring
humanity together in a one-world government which they call
the New World Order." --- Bill Cooper
Robette
2007-03-19 06:43:58 UTC
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When Russ was burnt out and asking for volunteers, Tim managed to
manipulate not only the (soon-to-be) members of the B8MB into listing
their order of preferences in a specific manner, but to convince the
other 11ish people (including Russ and Todd, IIRC) to list their
preferences in a certain manner.
I don't know whose fiction you are reading, but this certainly is NOT
true. At least speaking for myself, there was no manipulation, or
suggestions of any sort of order. There was no convincing. Unless you
have some actually proof that this mnipulation actually took place, a
withdrawal of this lie would be appropriate.
Hey, Thomas, it was a parody of the mission posters' paranoia
You stupid lil blood boiling nazi ass licking bitch,
who is afraid of her own shadow,
what are you fabricating here out of thin air?
and quite funny
if read in that light,
Which "light" can you be POSSIBLY talking about
when just about ALL your miserable life
you have been walking in the valley of darkness?
but I can understand why you might be rubbed the wrong
way.
Yep.

"Right" and "wrong".
"Bad" and "good".
"Virtuous" and "evil".

Anotherwords, a standard nazi template mind
of black and white.

Anything else is new under the Sun?




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"...you [Charlie Rose] had me on [before] to talk about the
New World Order! I talk about it all the time. It's one world
now. The Council [CFR] can find, nurture, and begin to put
people in the kinds of jobs this country needs. And that's
going to be one of the major enterprises of the Council
under me."

--- Leslie Gelb, Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) president,
The Charlie Rose Show
May 4, 1993
Alexis
2007-03-19 06:44:01 UTC
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Post by Owen
I tried running a deja on it, but couldn't find that thread nor the
comments at the time. But my recollection is that they didn't finish
it with 'of the board.'
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:membership&rev=1146705136
============== quote
VII. INTERIM POLICY: INITIAL TERMS FOR FOUNDER MEMBERS
1. Upon adoption of this Policy by the Board,
What "board", you funkay chickan?
the Chair shall,
Da "chair" shall suck a black hole.
by consent
Hey, this looks like zome corrupt parliament act
in a shadow puppet theatre.
I LIKE that.
if possible,
Yup, yup.
or randomly,
Yep. By sticking his weanie
into a hot cop of tee
and counting the drops
that fall off.
select three Members
Yup, yup.
Is it the same holey-sucking trinity emulation procedure?
of the Board
Oh.
DA Board, Yerr Holey Sucky Highness.
Sure!
Go fer it.
Zorry, it was a typo.
I meant
gofer it.
whose term of office
Yee fergot to say OFFICIAL office.
shall
Oh yerr knees, mortals!
expire on October 1st 2006
Sucky, sucky, sucky.
That cunt, Russ
simply cheeted you all, lil suckers.
He is laughing his eagle's ass off at you,
dummies.
and three whose term of office
shall expire on April 1st 2007.
Did you git it directly from da
parliamentary procedures?
The remaining three Members? term of
office shall expire on October 1st 2007.
Zo...
Who's gonna cut whose throat
and on what exact date
so i could come and see your shadows?
2. Section VII is an INTERIM measure,
Yup, yup.
Measure.
and shall expire
Did you get it from Da Bible directly?
and be
automatically removed from this Policy
Removed from this Policy?
Holey sucking wood!
once the process outlined in VII(1)
is completed.
You mean compelled?
============== end quote
Time to masturbate?
You will notice that the word "Founder"
On your knees, mortals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is followed by
"Members."
[That lil thingy that gangs between yer legs]
It is part of a document
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
DOCUMENT
I am just capitalizing it fer ya,
cause you seemed to have forgotten
how important it is and what its
relative significance is.
entitled
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah,
With BIG GOLDEN LETTERS.
"Big-8 Management Board Membership Policy".
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
Who brought these goats here?
I don't
see how any thoughtful
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
reader could interpret this as
a claim to be the founders of Usenet.
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
Per point VII.2,
Translating: Volume 7, chapter 2
of da holey bullshit pronouncement procedure,
character 17 of line number 13.
once we sorted out the classes on the
board
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
DA board!
Did you misspelled by ANY humble chance?
Did you mean da bored?
and set up a system
DA system.
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
to expire terms every six
months,
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
Just don't tell anyone that you already expired.
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
this section
You mean sUktion?
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
of the Membership Policy
Policy.
Policy.
Policy.
Policy.
Sucking good?
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
Ok and then?
was deleted.
DELETED?
Zorry, I must have missed da whole point here.
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah.
Marty
Morty, be nice willya?
What are you doing to my screen?




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[Zionism, fascism, ethnic cleansing, terrorism, war crimes, Khasars,
Illuminati, NWO]

"The epithet "anti-Semitism" is hurled to silence anyone,
even other Jews, brave enough to decry Israel's systematic,
decades-long pogrom against the Palestinian Arabs.

Because of the Holocaust, "anti-Semitism" is such a powerful
instrument of emotional blackmail that it effectively pre-empts
rational discussion of Israel and its conduct.

It is for this reason that many good people can witness
daily evidence of Israeli inhumanity toward the "Palestinians'
collective punishment," destruction of olive groves,
routine harassment, judicial prejudice, denial of medical services,
assassinations, torture, apartheid-based segregation, etc. --
yet not denounce it for fear of being branded "anti-Semitic."

To be free to acknowledge Zionism's racist nature, therefore,
one must debunk the calumny of "anti-Semitism."

Once this is done, not only will the criminality of Israel be
undeniable, but Israel, itself, will be shown to be the
embodiment of the very anti-Semitism it purports to condemn."

--- Greg Felton,
Israel: A monument to anti-Semitism

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